tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26454696.post1872214019805802021..comments2023-10-11T23:49:05.883+08:00Comments on MiRcH MaSaLa: Dera Sach Saudahavocsinghhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10225513813217829322noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26454696.post-31068859003349855932007-05-24T00:35:00.000+08:002007-05-24T00:35:00.000+08:00Yeah CNN (ibn) are telling lies,its no use, the go...Yeah CNN (ibn) are telling lies,its no use, the government of India is from last time against the Sikhs, so confirm they will tell like that, <BR/>i am sure that ram rahim is part of the governement or RSS against the Sikhs.<BR/>Anyway i love the wordings said by Jathedar Balwant Singh “That Singh who will bring the head of that dokhee (Dera leader Ram-Rahim), we will weigh him with gold and silver (as a sign of honour)”<BR/>Very inspiring..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26454696.post-17791774158867552982007-05-23T23:27:00.000+08:002007-05-23T23:27:00.000+08:00CNN IBN and other channels have repeatedly being s...CNN IBN and other channels have repeatedly being saying that its a fight over faith between Dera and Akali Sikhs. This is totally false! It's a fight between "All Sikhs" and the Dera.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26454696.post-13741247959177368422007-05-22T18:16:00.000+08:002007-05-22T18:16:00.000+08:00This secrilege of our sikh traditions and Gurus sh...This secrilege of our sikh traditions and Gurus should serve as a lesson for all of us. Many Sikhs are promoting and supporting these "Babas" and "Sants" who are flourishing like mushrooms in Punjab and all over the world, as a result of which, this "murakh" dares commit such a blesphamous act. The Panth needs to plan its response very carefully instead of the usual knee-jerk reaction. We may be playing into the hands of these politicians by inviting chaos. I'm reproducing an article by Bhai Autar Singh (Fauji) on behalf on the management team of GLZ. Its a bit long but worth the read:-<BR/><BR/>"gurmukh pyare jio<BR/>waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh!<BR/><BR/>it is six days now since the sacrileges event at the dear sacha sauda in salabatpura, bathinda in punjab although the dera is actually based in sirsa, haryana. why was this momentous event in the development of the dera held in punjab, ie away from its headquarters? why not in haryana? why after the akalis won the state elections in punjab?<BR/><BR/>why do such conflicts between deras and the mainstream sikhs happen when the akalis rule in punjab and the congress rules at the centre? why do these events not happen when congress is in power at both places, or when the akali/bjp coalition is in control at both places?<BR/><BR/>is this a ploy to create religious conflict in punjab when akalis are in power so that the central congress government can declare president's rule and throw out the akalis?<BR/><BR/>and who are those who would benefit the most if there is religious conflict in the state? who are the ones shouting the loudest for revenge, murder, head of the dera chief, etc? would these calls bring peace, or highten the conflict? then why are these people making such calls? why are they fanning the emotions? what are they going to benefit from this? are they for the state, panth and peace, or are they against?<BR/><BR/>by acting in josh in the past, the panth and the state has suffered tremendously. should we learn from history, as it keeps repeating itself? or should we keep making the same mistakes?<BR/><BR/>the time is now for the panth to act with hosh. a hosh that is supported by josh, for without the josh we may not move beyond the discussion stage. let us learn from our past mistakes.<BR/><BR/>we need to strategise our response and direct the josh of our community to act against the dera and its chief in a manner that will be a real victory for us. not in a way that will get us further into trouble. hence calling for the head of the dera chief, or announcing rewards for his head are not the way forward. what will we achieve? a war with the dera followers, who seem to number at least 10 million, most of them 'sikhs'. who will die? sikhs or at least punjabis. would this be a victory for the panth? for punjab and punjabis?<BR/><BR/>we have a challenge infront of us. the easy way is to go to war and get a lot of people killed, get the akali govt out, bring president's rule in, and make the followers of the dera life-long enemies of the panth and diehard premis of the dera. lost to us forever.<BR/><BR/>the challenge is to avoid the so called 'easy way' above, which all of us would opt for now given our hurt feelings. would we be able to do this? or would we allow our brothers and sisters [who are genuinely hurt by the events] to dictate the community's response by choosing the easy way?<BR/><BR/>we, the GLZ management, would like to appeal to our leaders and opinion makers, our panthic movers and shakers, to take the lead to get to the bottom of this hurtful episode to identify the reasons why sikhs would choose to leave the sharan of sahib sri guru granth sahib ji and seek the shelter of another [doojay bhau lagay]? and having done so, to strategise our response to counter this trend of reposing faith in deras. this to be the top priority of all.<BR/><BR/>we at GLZ would not post any mail advocating the 'easy way'. we would happily post those mails that provide long-term solutions going beyond this episode. i hope the membership is with us in this decision.<BR/><BR/>bhull chukk dhi khimaa karni jio.<BR/><BR/>guru raakhaa<BR/>autar singh<BR/>on behalf of <BR/>GLZ Management"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26454696.post-45660316952038668472007-05-22T18:15:00.000+08:002007-05-22T18:15:00.000+08:00Thanks for the article, was wondering what was goi...Thanks for the article, was wondering what was going on in Punjab.This is a very terrible thing happening to the Sikhs. How could the person dare to dress like Guru Gobind Singh and give out bluff amrit? I feel ashamed of this person, and i think the Sikhs should kill him if he never appologise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com