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Dera apologises, but to Guru


Finally after 14 days, the conflict between Sikhs and dera followers seems to have ended, as the Dera Sacha Sauda apologised to the 10th Sikh Guru Gobind Singh following the controversy over newspaper advertisements that showed the dera chief Baba Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh attired like Guru Gobind Singh.


Tendering an apology through a press note issued at about 8 p.m. at the dera headquarters, the dera stated that there is no question of imitating Guru Gobind Singh, as we could not even think to do so.

“The dera had earlier too expressed regret over the whole issue. But in the large interest of the humanity, we apologise to great spiritual Guru Gobind Singh. We want peace and brotherhood to prevail in Punjab, Haryana and also in the country and abroad.”


In the 10-line one-page press release, the dera said that it was established in 1948 and respected all religions. We work to reform the people by preaching them to become vegetarian, to quit drugs, alcohol, and also teach the followers ways to overcome caste and religious barriers aa also to work for the humanity.

It was distributed to the media by a three-member team, headed by the dera chief spokesman Dr Aditya Arora.


Five Jathedars of five religious seats will now take up the matter on May 31 and decide whether to accept the apology or not.

However, the press note issued by the dera did not carry any signature or reference number. It was issued under the letterhead of the Dera Sacha Sauda. While distributing the press note, no cameraman of electronic or print medium was allowed. Besides, no member of the committee allowed any question.

Source : http://www.tribuneindia.com/ , http://www.rediff.com/

CLick here to view the letter that was published.




So as the conclusion, did Ram Rahim really meant the appology?? or did his Cheley just print the letter fast one to show that they appologise ready... Because this letter is not official enough.

What I think is that he must come out to the public and appologise to the Sikhs, then only i think the appology will be accepted..

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Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) will ensure closure of all deras of Sacha Sauda headed by Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh in Punjab if Akal Takht directed it to do so, SGPC president Avtar Singh Makkar said after a meeting of the body’s executive members on Wednesday.
The Five Jathedar, through a resolution on May 20, had asked Sacha Sauda head to close all his deras in Punjab by May 27, failing which Sikh clergy had warned of a stricter action against the sect. Makkar refused to divulge the possible strategy of SGPC as to how it would close all the deras without any constitutional power. On the truce efforts of Sarv Dharma Committee, he said he didn’t have any deliberations with it but admitted to having a meeting in Delhi which was attended by different religious leaders.

About the Appology
On 20th May, Dera Sacha Sauda chief Ram Raheem Singh expressed his regret for appearing in the garb of Guru Gobind Singh, saying it wasn't his intention to imitate the 10th and the last Sikh Guru.
What Akal Takht Jathedar commented on this =
Jathedar Joginder Singh Vedanti acknowledged that the 'regret' note tendered by Gurmeet Ram Rahim was not acceptable as sentiments of the Sikh Nation were greatly hurt by the acts of the dera leader. After the meeting of the Singh Sahibs, he announced that if the Government failed to take appropriate actions, the Sikh leadership will meet again to announce a final decision on May 31.
Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti announced the letter as a 'mere play of words by Sacha Sauda'. Harnaam Singh Dhumma, announced that the dera chief will only be forgiven by the Sikhs if he appeared in front of Akal Takhat Sahib to personally tender the apology.

Is this appology good enough for Sikhs??

I was reading this interesting article on Sikhnet written by Gurujot Singh titled
Will the Guru's Sikhs please stand up?

He said :

"I’ve seen pictures of Singhs beating displays of Ram Rahim with their shoes. Sikhs have burned down Ram Rahim’s facilities, which were used to provide hospice to the needy. Now there are thousands of angry Sikhs out there who want this guy dead. "

"The part that really bothers me is that righteous Sikhs have actually killed others because of this matter. This is an insult to the Kirpan and against the teachings of our Guru. The Kirpan must not be used out of anger, vengeance, politics etc. It must be used out of defense and compassion. I am in shock that another 1984 is looming and the whole Khalsa Panth is being dragged into it."

"Ram Rahim may be able to fool some people, but the core of Sikhism will live on by its purity. “Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh” – “The pure ones belongs to God, and Victory belongs to God”. We don’t have to worry about the purity of Sikhism it will live on in those who are pure. Those who use Sikhi for their own politics will fall by the weight of their own karma. We don’t need to attack Ram Rahim, because the Guru’s Court is so pure that it purges itself. "

~ Nice point of view, talks about the positive side, go and check it out. CLICK HERE.
And make sure you read the comments given by others.

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Nowadays people can go to that extend to dressing up like the 10th guru, Guru Gobind Singh and give out false amrit to people. The head of the Sacha Sauda's so-called religious chief Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh who hurt Sikh sentiments by doing this.

~Cult leader wearing clothes similar to the ones Guru Gobind Singh Ji is depicted with, complete with a Kalgi on his head~

This person has also mimicked the sacred Sikh Amrit-Sanchar ceremony carried out by Guru Sahib on Vaisakhi of 1699. Gurmit Ram Rahim prepared a Ruhafza Sharbat (flavored milk) drink, labeled it as the 'Jam-e-Insa' (drink of humanity), administered it to the Sacha Sauda followers and announced the formation of the 'Insa Panth'.

How Ram Rahim Insulted the Amrit-Sanchar Ceremony.
To inaugurate the ceremony, Ram Rahim first administered the drink to seven men and announced the forty-seven golden rules of the so-called Insa Panth which all members of the congregation must abide by. Later, Ram Rahim appeared in front of the seven men, whom he titled the 'Sat Sitare' (Seven Stars), satirizing the ‘Panj Pyare’ (beloved five) of the Sikhs and asked them to carry out a ceremony to initiate him in this newly formed religious order. At this ceremony, Ram Rahim was dressed in clothing much like the type adorned by Guru Gobind Singh Ji and mimicked historical accounts of Vasakhi 1699.
Later after this event took place, tensions broke out in Bathinda in which Sikhs protested the acts of Ram Rahim's cult. Sacha Sauda followers also came out to oppose the protesting Sikhs and the scene became violent when at least twenty-five persons were badly injured. According to witnesses, Punjab Police officers just looked on as cultists beat the Sikh protestors with sticks and stones. Once the fight began to even out, the police finally decided to intervene and the tense situation was brought under control.

Bathinda Clash
Miscreants belonging to the "Sacha" Sauda cult virtually took over the government mini-secretariat in Bathinda for an entire day. Their volunteers assembled around the complex armed with fighting staffs and other weapons. Several trucks loaded with bricks and rocks were brought in for offensive use against the protesting Sikh Sangat.

~This is not 1984, this was the scene in Punjab three days ago ~

By 10:00am the cultists had assembled a large tent along with a stage on the main road facing the secretariat. One after another, pro-cult speakers began to deliver hateful remarks against the protesting Sikh Sangat.

One speaker openly challenged the Sikh community and declared “we have drunk the jam-e-insaa from our satguru, so go ahead and mess with us, and we will prove that our guru is greater than your guru.” This was a direct challenge to the Sikhs that their cult leader was greater than Guru Nanak-Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji. The speaker further spewed, “our leader will ride a horse, and wear any dress he wishes to wear. If anyone has the guts, try to stop him! If anyone speaks against our satguru, we are willing to die, even if we will create rivers of blood by this action.”

HOW COULD THEY EVEN THINK OF TELLING THESE HARSH WORDS. ITS VERY VERY DISSAPOINTING.

Bhai Kanwaljit Singh Ji is the first Shaheed of the anti-Dera Morcha. He was killed near the Suman Dera of the Sauda Cult.

” ਜੋ ਵੀ ਸਿੰਘ ਡੇਰੇ ਦੇ ਉਸ ਦੋਖੀ ਮੁਖੀ ਦਾ ਸਿਰ ਕਲਮ ਕਰਕੇ ਲਿਆਵੇਗਾ, ਉਸਨੂੰ ਸੋਨੇ ਚਾਂਦੀ ਨਾਲ ਤੋਲ ਦਿਆਂਗੇ ! “
- ਜਥੇਦਾਰ ਬਲਵੰਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਨੰਦਗੜ੍ਹ
“That Singh who will bring the head of that dokhee (Dera leader Ram-Rahim), we will weigh him with gold and silver (as a sign of honour)”
- Jathedar Balwant Singh Nandgarh at Shaheed Bhai Kanwaljit Singh ji’s funeral.

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A meeting was held at Akal Takht Sahib with all the major Jathebandis and Jathedars. They have announced that Punjab will be shutdown on Tuesday, 22nd May because the government has not yet met the demands of the Khalsa Panth.
They further demanded all “Sacha” Sauda deras in Punjab be completely shutdown and evacuated. If these demands are not met by the 27th of May, there will be a Panthic march on 30th May.
Please note the dates may be unconfirmed, this is preliminary information from Panthic Weekly sources.

Is it Deja Vu All Over Again
A representative of the Khalsa Alliance, while talking with Panthic Weekly, compared the Bathinda incident with the various Nirankari clashes that occurred in the late 1970's. Those clashes came to a climax on Vaisakhi of 1978 when thirteen innocent Sikhs were killed by the armed Nirankaris with the aid of local Police. The Nirankari leader Gurbhachan Sinh had paraded the streets of Amritsar Sahib on Vaisakhi mimicking Sikh traditions. Copying the ideology of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, Gurbhachan Nirankari had promised to form 'Sat Sitare' in comparison to Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Punj Pyare. That incident had involved hundreds of Sikhs peacefully marching and chanting hymns when dozens of armed gunmen opened fire on them with automatic weaponry.

WILL THIS BE THE REPEAT OF THE 1978 OR 1984 INCIDENT??

WILL RAM RAHIM APPOLOGISE TO SIKHS & WILL THE SIKHS FORGIVE HIM?

WILL THE BABBAR KHALSA OR ANY OTHER SINGHS ASSASIANATE HIM?

WILL THIS BE THE CONTINUATION OF KHALISTAN?

WHAT WILL YOU DO ABOUT THIS INCIDENT?? ASK YOURSELF.

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GURSIKH and SHAHBAAZ KHALSA has released a poster/pamplete which is dedicated to the 300 YEARS GADDI NASHINI PURAB of SHRI GURU GRANTH SAAHIB JEE. pdf version can obtained through the links below

http://www.savefile.com/files/740041 or

http://www.savefile.com/files/732147

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